- How to join a Network Marketing Company (MLM)?
- How to choose a good network marketing company?
- How to succeed in network marketing on the internet?
- How? 'Or' What…
In short, these are all questions that most people ask themselves who see in this activity, a real opportunity to earn money and finally achieve financial freedom.
Sadly, things aren't always that easy, behind the income potential and the work-from-home opportunity that is always put forward, there is a reality that you certainly ignore. You do not believe me ?
Tell me, have you ever heard any of these phrases?
- Network marketing is the best business model in the world, it's the most viable
- If you are positive then nothing and no one will stop you
- You need a big list of contacts to succeed in network marketing
- You have to recruit again and again to succeed
- It's not selling it's sharing, recommending
- The product sells itself so you will not have much to do
- You must have a big "Why" to be successful
- If you do what I tell you to do you will have the same results as me
- This is not a pyramid sale because there is a product for sale
- You will receive a free and complete training that will ensure you success
- We are a family and we will take care of you
- You just have to recommend the product to your friends and the rest will be done alone
- Not really need to work long, 2 H a day is more than enough
- This is the best opportunity to become financially independent
- Our godfather revolutionized the network marketing industry
- Our products are new and exclusive
- We have the best compensation plan in the market right now
- Etc., etc…
You know, there are a lot of myths about network marketing. The truth is there, but to find it, you must look for it and especially accept to face it. For the most part, these are lies invented by "Pseudo-leaders" unscrupulous in order to recruit, scam and ruin any people who would have the misfortune to believe.
The goal here is to seduce without having something concrete to offer, then to create a blur around three main variables: cost, risk and value. That being said, let's try to stop on some of these myths (lies):
This myth can also appear in the form of:
- Earn 5000 € per week without having to move a finger
- Discover the opportunity to never work again
- Discover how I won 10000 € in a month ...
If this was really the case, why do over 98% of people who join MLM give up?
Normally we should rather have the reverse, that is to say, 98% success rate, right? How can anyone claim that this is the opportunity to make a lot of money when the failure and dropout rate exceeds 98%?
To earn a sustainable income, no matter the company or the compensation plan, you need to build a network of about 1000 active people. To duplicate your success, those 1000 people will need to build a network of 1 million people. Which will lead you to a network of1001.000 people, so more income and even more work for your godchildren who dream of duplicating this success again. At this stage, they will need 1002.001.000.000 (two billion thousand million people).
Oops! I believe the world population is only 7 billion people… There is something wrong, isn't there?
In fact the money of the few winners comes from the constant inscription of an army of future losers. It's not the lack of limits on the number of distributors that will fix things. If there is one thing that network marketing can guarantee you at least at 98%, it's fine failure.
The network marketing system itself is simply inherently unstable. In fact, all MLM systems are designed to allow only a small number of people to earn a lot of money. So even when I say it has nothing to do with MLM, my reasoning is a bit limited. The system itself has flaws like any other.
Rest assured, the people who recruit you will suffer from what I call "Voluntary amnesia", that is, they will simply "To omit voluntarily" to emphasize this detail. Do not blame them once you become part of "System"you will not do better. Unless you are living with the urge to change things. I wish you a lot of courage, because a big building site and many wars await you.
The goal here is to undervalue risk and cost. Don't watch out for all those deceptive testimonials that are meant to influence a positive decision on your part. The testimonial is supposed to show you that the system is proven and works.
According to you:
- What are your chances of recruiting as many people as your sponsor?
- How long will it take?
- How much is it going to cost you?
- What are you going to have to give up?
You will take all the time it takes to respond, for the moment, we must move forward.
- If Network Marketing is such a good and long-lasting opportunity, why are you being prompted to sign up so quickly?
- What's the difference between signing up now and signing up since there will always be people ordering?
I let those who are giving you this kind of speech respond to it.
So, I did not know that we are clones and we have the same abilities.
This myth can also take the following forms:
- It's so easy that even a child can do it
- I know a lady of 82 who has been so successful it's easy
- We already have more than one million members around the world who live off this opportunity.
- If I could do it, then you can do it too
Yes, there are some who certainly earn money in the MLM, but they represent only the tip of the iceberg that I remind you is made up of less than 2% Distributors. The rest will give up after a few weeks.
Why don't they ever say you'll need to master the greatest sales principles as well as the greatest marketing strategies? You cannot be successful in this business if you are neither a good salesperson nor a good marketer.
If more than 98% those who do it are doomed to fail, so I think that's the proof that not everyone can do it. We are not clones, so we do not have the same abilities, the same gifts and even less the same assets. Everyone can succeed, but not everyone can succeed in a specific area.
Everyone has their experience and skills, its advantages and disadvantages. Let's say that we succeed only in areas compatible with our potential. Even if it is true that whoever wills, I tell you that faith is not enough.
Several factors come into play:
- the competence
- the availability
- money
- willingness
- passion
- the determination
- And much more…
Any citizen can become president of his country and yet there is only one place of free. If Network Marketing (mlm) is so easy, why isn't the earth filled with billionaires? And sometimes, to be successful in this area you have to be in bad faith ...
This lie is closely related to the first and many others. Many sponsors will tell you "Don't try to reinvent the wheel because someone has already done it for you, just work with the system we have set up and you will get the same results as us".
I have nothing against this way of thinking because I know we all need examples at some point to avoid making the same mistakes as those who have started in network marketing before us. However, I wonder if we owe a blind trust to his godfather and the system put in place ...
Well, I think if the wheel I'm using is slow, rusty, or not working properly, then either I'm going to look for a new one, or I'm going to get one that's faster, more efficient, and works properly.
The argument is: "These people have had success with their methods, and if I listen to them and put into practice what they mthey say, then I too will have the same success as them ”. This is true, but only in part.
No success is perfectly duplicable! Whether in network marketing or outside.
For duplication to be perfect, you must meet the same people at the same time, with people with the same states of mind and budgets at the same time. You have to relive the course of the one who succeeded, immerse yourself in his time, in the same socio-economic context, etc ... If it is impossible for you to relive your own past, then imagine how difficult it will be to relive someone else's ...
Let us dwell a little on the context if you will.
This is another problem of perfect pseudo duplication. We are talking about proven methods in the United States, and we forget (by importing the method) to specify that the contexts are different, you simply can not get the same results.
For example, not all network marketing companies sell direct. There are some that exist only on the internet. So if you can't do direct sales in addition to internet sales, how do you expect to achieve the same results as the american distributor who can do both?
So why ask you to apply the same principles when the data is already skewed from the start? So you understand that legislation can also be an obstacle to your success in mlm.
What needs to be duplicated in network marketing isn't really. And here I am talking about:
- Improving the quality of relations
- A better understanding of the needs of prospects
- altruism
- The competence
- The respect
- A better knowledge of the company and the products it sells
Not very far from the myth about perfect duplication, this lie very often takes the following form: "Our system is proven".
In fact, the only thing that the system is proven to do, it is to cause a massive failure. You will be thrown into the lion's den while being careful to ask you to tell everyone about your product including people who are hostile to network marketing as well as those who have no interest in buying your product.
Here is one that we hear every day. The perfect excuse for all these millions of godfathers who have been lucky enough to be above their godchildren, but who are unfortunately unable to turn them into real leaders. They refuse to acknowledge their shortcomings and try to make you believe it's your fault if you do not succeed in your mlm company.
The worst is that deep inside you, you feel that there is something wrong. But you say to yourself how they told you it's just a matter of time, everything will work out, just have a big " Why " and enough motivation and everything will be better. But the more time passes and the more you are disgusted, helpless and frustrated ... And here is the abandonment that is the appointment ...
Listen, you can have:
- the firmest faith in the world
- utmost " Why " that we can imagine
- the biggest motivation of the world
But none of this will be helpful if you use the wrong techniques if you have the wrong approach. In fact, everyone at one " WHY " what you need most is a " HOW? 'OR' WHAT " and especially a " FOR WHO " .
The value of a product depends mostly on its marketing. With a good marketing strategy you can sell anything. Coca-Cola made a fortune selling tinted sweet water.
McDonald's does not make the best burgers and yet he is the world's largest seller.
The novelty or exclusivity of a product does not guarantee its success. If we push this theory further, then it assumes that as soon as he is "old" his success will disappear with him. Ah I was going to forget, WITH YOU TOO!
Believe me, if these products were so good, these companies would not use network marketing for promote. In fact most "New" products in network marketing are just improved and renowned versions of already existing products. The worst is that some of these new products do not sell at all.
As we often say: "They need it but they don't know it yet"… I always wonder who is it that could invent such stupidity… It is aberrant!
Tell me, when you enter a hyper-market, do you buy all the products on display or only the ones you need? If you only buy the ones you need, how can you think everyone needs what you have to offer? Does the product you are promoting through mlm cure all ailments? I do not think so.
So be careful with the novelty!
Oh that's very sweet and very touching. Thank you very much for all this love!
If only all this could be true ...
This lie can also take one of the following forms:
- We have a team of experienced leaders who made a fortune in the mlm
- Alain Dupont who is a leader in this field is part of our team
- We are a family and we constantly help each other
To recruit you and especially reassure you, there is a good chance that your future godfather will tell you these things one day. In most cases, as soon as you have finally made the decision to join the company, then also begins your descent into hell.
- You're getting less and less attention
- You receive (luckily) “pseudo” training on the tools and resources
- You're told you need a big "why" to be successful
- We explain that you need to generate web traffic to achieve this
- We ask you to distribute thousands of flyers per week
- We recommend tools in the wrong order (you only need to have a blog when you have value to publish it)
- Your sponsor begins to tell you that it's up to you to go to him and not the opposite
- You find yourself more and more abandoned to yourself
- Etc ...
At the recruiting stage, we will always do everything to make you believe that everything is easy, and yet the reality is more cruel than it looks.
In this environment, criticism is not always welcome and the real value is very often considered as an obstacle. Team spirit is only a facade, everyone is there for his interests in most cases. As soon as you raise fairly pointed questions about one of the group leaders of your network marketing company, you start to be considered a traitor.
Now that we have recruited you, we can move on to another recruitment, it's up to you to get by because we do not have enough time to devote to you. They are not really bad, they just do not have enough time to lose with you. They need to recruit more people. So is the system.
It is still important to recognize that they (distributors) are not all the same. I have met a few who are really knowledgeable, caring and trustworthy.
Between us,
- If it's not a sale then why are you being promised commissions?
- Why do you absolutely need the skills to make it happen?
- Why are the products just not being offered?
- How many distributors are focusing their talk on the real value of the product they are promoting?
If you notice, they will always tell you about the business plan and all the money you could earn instead of meeting your needs by telling you what the product can do for you. Oh, I was going to forget that it's not always the product that interests you.
Go to Facebook, and you will notice this: barely you say hello to someone than they already answer you:
" Good morning or good evening. If you wish, I offer you the opportunity to earn 5000 € per month for only 30min of work per day. If you want to know more, tell me, I will send you the file here or on your email. It's a world exclusive and a revolutionary new concept. See you soon. ".
I do not know about you, but I do not see any sharing in this attitude. I see only interest and especially someone who speaks of what he does not even control. You are mirrored by a facility that will have the gift of guaranteeing you failure in network marketing. It's not child's play, it's selling products and services.
New distributors are made to believe that it will be a pleasure, it will just have to work 2H a day and the rest will come alone. Unfortunately, reality has the gift of catching up with those who try to flee it. One of the reasons people tell this lie is because they do not want to scare new prospects.
Let's get it clear once and for all, SELL IS NOT SHARE, SHARING IS NOT SELLING!
Many people think that MLM is an activity that can be practiced part-time and in addition to their existing job ... What these people do not know is that network marketing is a full-time job once you have exhausted your social circle (friends and family).
Between us, quote me one job as lucrative (potentially) as network marketing that only requires 30min to work a day ...
Do you have one in mind? I can't hear anything, what are you saying? …………
Ah OK, that's what I thought, there are none, is there? To be successful in this area, you are going to have to work very hard for a long time.
In fact, the freedom we are talking about here is illusory. Only leaders are successful, and to become successful you will probably have to work two to three times more than others. And I can guarantee you that 2 to 3 hours a day will not even be enough to do half the job on time. Unless you are in no rush to achieve success. In this case, review your lifespan with your creator OK?
- Who will do the research for you?
- Who will take care of writing your articles?
- Who will take care of sending emails to your prospects?
- Who will distribute the brochures for you?
- Who will create the videos for Youtube for you?
- Who will respond to messages from prospects for you?
- Am I going to make the phone calls for you?
- Who will manage your network for you?
- Who will accumulate the experience you need to succeed?
Do not rely on your sponsor to handle the generation of your web traffic
This is only a preview, there is more work than that. MLM is no fun. It will never give you the results you expect if you consider it a hobby.
One last thing: ask your sponsor how long it took to create his own current network and especially how many people make up this network. Then compare these results with the time he spent in this company added to his own experience. Do it and you will see that there is more work than it tries to make you think.
This myth often takes the following forms:
- You will earn so much money that you can finally say goodbye to your boss
- Money will no longer be a problem for you and you will not even need to work anymore
But if it did,
- Why does this person who says it to you still work in this mlm company?
- Why does she still need your money?
- Why is she working for a network marketing company?
- Normally she would be at the head of his, right?
Do you smell the same lie?
I feel it so far so much she is strong.
The truth is that if you leave your current boss, it will be to join another. I do not know about you, but I do not see any freedom in there.
Why quit a job which guarantees you a monthly income to join a company which is unable to guarantee you a minimum of 30 € monthly after 6 months?
Have no illusions, you will never be your own boss as long as you work for someone else. It's not fun. To be your own boss, you need to start your own network marketing business. And it doesn't matter if you work from home, you won't be freer than you are now. Those who tell you that 2 hours a day will be enough are either liars or ignorant.
"It is impossible to take charge of your life when you choose to blindly obey others"
All of this is true, but only in part. You should also consider the following points:
1-The kits - Most distributors are encouraged to purchase the larger "starter kit", depending on the companies, this kit will cost $ 500, $ 750, $ 1000 and even more. Some companies also recommend training courses that will cost several hundred dollars.
2-Promotion. Paid advertising won't give you any freebies at this level and sometimes you will need a good training. For example, if you don't know how to use Google AdWords, you will simply ruin yourself very quickly.
3-Paying courses. Most of my students have often spent up to € 2500 for 8-week private coaching… Sounds like I'm expensive, right? but as they say, quality comes at a price. So if you add the paid training which by far is of better quality than those offered by your company, then it is the note which only increases. Chances are your upline will tell you they're useless.
4-Tools
- do you know how to set up a blog? what training do you have on blogging?
- do you know how to set up an autoresponder?
- who will take care of the personalization of your promotional tools?
- Maybe the initial investment is small, but there are many other expenses that are simply not mentioned when recruiting.
- You can also use your earnings to finance the rest you are told, but how long? With what income?
- Do you plan to do it with the less than 30 € monthly that you will earn after 6 months of work without effective training?
Believe me, the more you advance in this industry, the more you will realize that the reality of network marketing is totally different from the one presented to you at the beginning. The expenses will become more and more astronomical.
No one can guarantee you success! Everything depends :
- context
- the opportunity
- your personal development
- of your competence
- your approach
- luck
- of your money of course
You need to be in the right place at the right time with the right skill and the right approach. Marketing is not a mechanical process. The one who tells you: "Spend that amount at a certain time and for such things, and you will have such income" is a liar. It does not work like that ! Success either.
Spending more time, energy and money will never guarantee success. Anyone who does this kind of talk just makes fun of you and tries to take advantage of your naivety. If success were so easy to achieve, it would certainly have fewer poor people in the world.
This myth is very often used to make you believe that it is your fault that you are not yet successful in the network marketing industry. More, how can we blame you for not investing enough while in your recruitment, you were told that the investment is low?
This myth can also take the following form:
- The product is in high demand so you will not have much to do
- The orders keep coming, you must absolutely benefit now
- And if the product really does sell itself, why is that person who tells you so still trying to sell it to you?
- Do you know of a product that will sell itself?
Google- Microsoft - Apple and many others have very popular products and yet they promote them. If you don't market your product, how do you want people to know it exists?
The other negative aspect of the popularity of a product is the competition. The history of mlm has seen the birth of dozens of products from the popularity of others. Your profit per sale can be high, but if you do not do enough, then the profit margin loses its value.
You Choosing a high-demand market does not guarantee you the success promised by your sponsor ... Several other factors come into play and complicate the equation, but I'm not here to confuse you so I prefer to stop there.
Is that so ? And what about:
- Competition from other distributors in your company?
- The hundred competing companies that distribute the same products around the world?
Each distributor who joins your company limits your field of action. The more he recruits, the less likely you are to make a lot of money. If you recruit your downline from among your friends and family, they will end up fighting with each other instead of expanding sales and network beyond their immediate social circle.
A market will always be saturated because its radiation is limited. Your product does not solve all the problems of the world so does not necessarily address everyone, which greatly limits your target audience. In addition you are not the only one to offer this type of solution.
There will always be people to consume products, it is true, but there will not always be people to consume yours. Network Marketing cannot guarantee you anything!
The residual network marketing income is based on the hard work of your referrals. It is still necessary that they remain active (they pay their monthly subscriptions). They must also sell products, recruit more people who will replace those already abandoned.
Your success in MLM depends only on the quality of your referrals. It is up to you to train them, to give them the value they need so that they, in turn, build and expand their own networks. If you yourself have no value, it will simply be impossible for you to give to your godchildren. Hence the importance of following a good training.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of training offered by network marketing companies is limited to (sometimes bad) recruitment techniques ... And yet, you need more than that. At this point, it is your eternal laziness that is exploited.
These are not the only myths, however I am not here to crucify MLM. So, I prefer to stop here. Hope this helped you understand Network Marketing.
now, I am curious to know what you think of this article. Please let me know by leaving a comment below.
Hi,
In part, what you are saying is true because unfortunately recruiters want to convince, at all costs, the individual to work in the Network Marketing industry. Like any other industry, it is not for everyone since a lot of skills have to be developed.
To be a doctor, you have to study for many years and there are some who change careers after a few years… Will it be a failure?
I agree, that most of the people who start working in the MLM industry are not well educated and it is for this reason that 98% of people fail.
A Network Marketing professional must create a consumer and / or distributor market. So-called “traditional” companies must do it too…
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Why are franchise companies not seen as so-called “scammers”?
So you also have to buy a franchise and then sell the product and / or service. Did you know that in addition to the cost of the franchise, the franchisor must pay per month a percentage of his earnings and / or a fixed percentage.
I advise anyone who wants to earn a fixed monthly salary to stay as an employee with their “boss”.
But I have bad news, this "boss" is not guaranteed until you retire. You can know unemployment, which lasts between 1 to 2 years… and you are also obliged to change company. If you can't find a company that wants your work you won't be able to pay your bills… so is it a failure?
There is no perfect path!
Live your life to the fullest the way you want!
Thanks for reading me.
Yours, and be happy!
Good evening Me, it's Cécile Vigneau, I am sharing this story with you in order to make you aware, for the less initiated among you, of this type of fairly common scams, I would like to prevent others from getting caught! I was the subject of a meeting scam by a Jean Bernard who at first told me he lived in Auxerre in 89, then after a few weeks he left for Africa for business and that's where my nightmare began. He scammed me for € 571.000 but luckily a friend kept me company for that. It was then that I phoned Interpol de France Lyon to make a complaint I explained all this problem to Interpol de Lyon who made me contact a lieutenant general of the Interpol cybercriminal police in direct collaboration with the Interpol police from France who helped me. I was reimbursed for all the money they stole from me followed by compensation of € 50 which was offered to me by the governor of ECOWAS. I was very lucky because I escaped this scam story so I am here just to give you this precious help. This crook was arrested him and his accomplices and I succeeded in benefiting from a compensation of 000 €. For any scams of which you have been a victim, I advise you to do as I did by contacting the Interpol police lieutenant Mr Antoine LOUBIER.
This article was published a long time ago, but it is still very useful and useful. Thanks for sharing your experience on MLM.
Extremely well summarized article ...
So for my part, I did MLM, I was good and I did pretty well, and I stopped everything… for simple reasons… MLM is THE way to rip people off.
IAD, YERS, QSCIENCES, CBD-based thing, or local eco-participation (to name them all) etc…. mass recruitment, and a lot of so-called managers, coaches, trainers etc ... a lot of talk about values that very rarely respected ... a lot of promises on remuneration ...
the techniques I know them, I applied them, to see that in the end we are trained to show the successes, the number and the mass (of few) of successful people, but above all by masking the reality.
Ask yourself the question, when a leader announces to you that he has left an MLM network, because he has a fiery opportunity and that he is at the beginning because these products, concept, etc… are super innovative… how many times made this change? how long did he stay on his previous case…? that it is that personal production… or that one announces for example 9000 real estate advisers, and that in reality only 2500 to 3000 really manage to live on it for or less…
anyway ... watch out
This analysis is partly correct ...
But it also contains many very questionable points which suggest that the subject is not mastered.
But thank you, it opens up an interesting debate on what is and what is not relationship marketing.
I will take the time to do a detailed analysis of each point and make the necessary corrections.
Bret see you soon!
Hello,
If an MLM cult uses this process: recruiters form teams which themselves recruit others. The first in line recruits, receives commissions on the sales of its recruits. Recruited who recruit, receiving commissions and so on. The very first in the line at the top constitutes a network which widens as and when, harasses and contact via social networks, by recruiters and salespeople, with 2.000 recruited per session, with an enticing poster with Claire Castel, how is called the model ?.
I was "recruited" by a friend to be part of a real estate and financial investing company of this style.
They mainly sold paid training to be able to evolve and earn more and without taking into account your intellectual and professional background.
We always talked to you about the winners of the Loto, ignoring the number of players.
What was amazing is that some "managers" had other activities with other companies and competing products.
Proof if it is that their MLM activity was not sufficient to make a good living ...
But to each his vision of things and his choice of life..20 years as an independent wealth manager and I was made to understand that I had to start again at the bottom of the ladder to "integrate" the company and its reality and especially the concept… When I expressed reservations and asked questions, I was made to understand that I did not correspond at all to the profile sought…
Well, some of their real estate partners were selling 20 apartments, which were more expensive than the tax savings market and only for renting and by national networks. And they sold me the ethics of society and love. The exchange on these products was a great moment of friction because the commissioning was around 12% HT.
200 000 € sales tax gave 24 000 € HT commission to the company.
I let you analyze the content of the product sold.
But each has their own way of making money and loving their customers ...
Over 98% of people who joined network marketing / mlm have given up? I do not believe it
Yers, is not the scam so simple that some seem to describe, I would like to remind among other things, that the remuneration marketing plan, the General Conditions of use and all the other documents of a legal nature are available here: yers. app / index / legal.html
If you don't trust your sponsor or the person who told you about this opportunity, there is always reading to make sure you understand the principle.
As of this writing, Yers is still in a beta phase. This implies that you have agreed to join, like me, a project in the process of being finalized, whose objectives are clearly written in the PMR and the T & Cs. The implementation of the latest developments, which will give all the coherence to this project, is scheduled for January. If you ignore all this, it is because you are not researching the subject, yet there is tons of info and live video from the management team regularly on the official YERS social networks.
If you have “lost” 25eur, you must blame in the first place with the person who “forcing” you to spend it, by neglecting voluntarily or not to tell you the truth. But don't blame the concept for being what you don't think it is when you haven't mastered it! To criticize the concept in itself, you have to have studied it at least a minimum, don't you think?
If you don't believe in ethical and responsible goals and think for a moment that they won't do what they said and wrote, that they would do… then yes, you better completely forget Yers…. or in a half measure, wait for the (free) customer access planned in January 2019 which will allow you to take the dimension of the concept.
I am not an MLM pro and even rather basic, quite resistant to commercials of all kinds. I am not against an entrepreneur and constantly on the lookout for new opportunities… Yers is an opportunity with a much more complex and successful vision than bcp can imagine.
Hello,
The real scam let it be known is not network marketing, it is to depend on a boss (a little more free than you) for a minimum wage for 40 years and to live 2 days a week and 5 weeks a year ...
See this pyramidal system which is legal, a person in the head, little heads below and still below the employees who work to enrich the head of lineage!
good luck to all
I had the opportunity to take a bunddle at 25th, then from my husband to my daughter and her darling, however this kind of system disturbed me, lack of time, I lost 75th and lost 25th to my son-in-law, I order very very little on the internet, so not interesting. finally I paid, actually paid, to have nothing in return! and yet I returned to the opening where there should be almost no one, in the end, there were already 10000! above !!
so very disappointed by this kind of system where you pay dear to be paid a less than nothing!
I gave up without any regrets!
Scam scam to flee, how to give power of purchase when we propose you to take 25 € / month and even 60 € / month.
We talk to you about buying ethical and eco responsible fashion word assembly and the company is unable to write a charter of good conduct.
Very good article Thierry!
I think what Francis wanted to ask is if “Yers”, brand new to the industry, is based on the same principles?
There are many things that coincide with your article:
-the speech on the founding team full of MLM personalities
-the talk on "making money easily and ethically"
-the speech of newly hired recruits "we are a family"
For my part, what I have observed is above all a pyramid trap (forgive me the expression) where everyone tries to convince his relatives so that they themselves convince their loved ones and so on to line their pockets leaders.
To have discussed with some proud defenders of the new kid, unfortunately I have often been confronted with a formatted and very vague speech. It is limited to "making ends meet", "giving back purchasing power", "ethical cybermarketting" but as soon as you dig, it does not control the subject at all and it probably spits out the same speech as the sponsor (or n + 1 as in any pyramidal society).
So I would like to have your opinion on this new kid as well, to know if you immediately spot the shadowy areas hidden from the misinformed mass and only greedy for wealth?
Thank you
Hello Clement,
I have never tested this MLM and I don't even know it. So I am in a very poor position to talk about it.
My advice: The ideal would be to find an idea to start your own business in your area of expertise. It's more work at first, but it's worth it.
the difference is also between amateurs and professionals…. and that matters too, right? not everyone is able to become a professional in one sector or another .. I have seen "amateurs" wanting to sell Tourism or real estate (for example) and it is not for the reach of all ... there are laws, rules, a consumer code (or tourism for the trip) and when an amateur launches into a sector too often he does not see the risk that engages him as staff..,
Good evening Robert,
Thank you for this nice remark that I also find relevant.
Hello
Thank you for this article, at the moment there is a new one arriving on the "yers" market which covers point by point all the articles above, except that this system plays on the ethical side of making responsible purchases and that it support on the networks therefore necessarily young people who spend time on social networks, from my point of view, I see people from iad who create a system with their leaders at the head and an army of salespeople to bail out their pockets , the famous 98%, and when do you think?
Hello Francis,
Can you rephrase your question?
Indeed very interesting, but your reasoning is simply completely FALSE!
I don't believe you will dare to publish my point-to-point answers, so I invite those who read you to read other sites. The only thing that is true is that there is still 98% abandonment today and that is frankly a shame. I think your articles are contributing to the misinformation and failure of these people. 2% that represents millions of successful people around the world and in all organizations. And that implies that those who follow them succeed with them. Because if in your network 98% of the members give up, then you too fail! So statistically speaking only 2% know how to build a solid network and it is they who should be followed and not you….
Great article, after that remains to find the right MLM, and arrive at the right time with the right strategy. The trick is to know how to federate and to know how to build loyalty, marketing, marketing and more marketing
Hello,
Very interesting article and which allows to have information to take a step back on the activity.
I started the VDI activity somewhat by chance at the beginning of the year and I had a speech almost identical to what you describe - and to the testimonials. I admit to being a little disappointed and I have the impression of having been a little had ...
Promises / signing contract with me after a dream talk / “products that sell themselves” - “what are your dreams in life” - “we will help you, we are here for that it will not bring us anything that you have of success "-" just talk about it around you, it's so good why you don't want to share it with your loved ones? " etc., etc. The famous stroke of “it's like a good restaurant…. »By reading your articles I really had this click.
I quickly realized that it was wrong, when I attended the “product only” trainings and started to canvass around me I had sentences “but what is your thing? ". In training we are +/- trained to this kind of objections…. and we are surrounded by people who tell about their success - at a low level like the majority of advisers - or the “big guys” who talk about their trips, their villas. This discourse has always bothered me and that of "recruiting recruiting recruiting".
The company for which I distribute still has a great advantage (compared to most in MLM and VDI according to my research) is that the cleaning products are really effective and really economical (that we do not don't tell me that I am formatted lol, because I really compared and tested). This is what keeps me going and allows me to sell it quite easily, I never feel like I'm forcing people because the products really serve them and they call me back to recommend, there is demand. (no no i am not formatted lol).
What really displeases me: it is the part of the discourse "recruitment" and "succeed in your dreams". Among the lot of successful people, there is a good part who really love the products and are not looking to recruit and continue to make big personal numbers. But also another good part which assumes and says "the product is secondary, the important thing is the concept".
I also have NO contact with my sponsor, I understood his game and I can't stand it - I'm just another person in his chain, and I was one of his goals for the month . If I had had another sponsor, was first a client for a few years before I started, I would surely have another point of view.
I hope my testimony is not too long!
Thierry I wanted to ask you: do you think that there are serious and correct companies in this area? With really effective products and ethics? Or all MLM companies are the same… I still have some hope because I have come across a small segment of honest and anti MLM talk people within this company.
I really like to sell my products but I am not looking to recruit, unless one day someone wants to get started and likes the products why not, but I will NEVER have a recruiting goal (am I doomed to 'failure?). But after my research, these articles & testimonials, I'm afraid I was just… naive.
Thank you
Good evening Yannick,
Personally, I believe that it is possible to get by in mlm, but it is difficult to do "honestly" and to maintain in the long term. After that, everything depends on several parameters.
Thank you message! I will leave a comment in a few months for a new testimony.
Yannick, we often say that MLM is about personal development. And in your case you do need to evolve. You like to sell your products and this is already a very good thing. Now you must learn to like to pass on your knowledge about the products and about the sale. When you also like to do this, it will be easy for you to work on recruiting and training your team members. And thanks to this you will develop your income. Your upline does the job for the promise of having a lot of money and you stay for the products. Your lives and your views are different. And it is not important. If you didn't like the behavior of your sponsor, be a different sponsor!
Hello Annie,
You say, “… If you didn't like the behavior of your sponsor, be a different sponsor! "
At least on this point, I completely agree with you. And I find this advice constructive 🙂
Hello Annie,
I find your comment very interesting as well. I myself am in a network marketing company focused on discount travel platform. I have had the opportunity to test hotels for a long time and above all to compare and it works. I advocate an approach quite similar to yours when it comes to recruiting: we are not in this industry to sell "dreams" or to force consumption. We are looking for potential consumers who have a need, such as an advertisement. Concerning the recruitment itself, I also join you on the methodology: the one who wants to become "actor" can but not MUST under any circumstances. Many fail, it's true (98% I still have doubts) but few people who start up report this to the real world of business: have we ever seen an entrepreneur pay himself a salary in the first year of creation? of his company by only working part-time ?! I don't think so… And if you know any I would be happy to talk to them. We owe it to ourselves to say that it is possible to earn money, but for that we must not pretend that it is in a short time, with little investment. You have to train yourself, invest yourself personally ... And that's how it should be talked about in my opinion, it would even be counterproductive for us to recruit a person by selling him dreams, by investing our time for it. train all of this so that she gives up a few months later… Let's aim instead for the human adventure and listening to the needs of the person.
If some people want to discuss the subject, I am quite open (facebook, intragram…).
Thank you Thierry for this article which seems all the same somewhat negative and rather global because I continue to believe that some MLM companies do a very good job and what is more in the ethics and the respect of the values. I hope your readers will know the difference between each company.
Hello,
I join Marion when she says it's interesting to be able to develop a business for only 24 euros.
Apart from the flash in the pan which is launched with the miracle product and which disappears in 3 years, I think that the main mistake lies in the distinction between “consumer” and “distributor”.
All distributors are consumers, but the reverse is not true.
Most distributors have a “consumer” behavior and are a long way from making the effort to leave the hobbyist world and become a network marketer. However, no amateur is paid because the definition of professional is precisely "who earns money by his activity".
The confusion is that all consumers have an interest in believing that they will be able to make money given the low start-up cost. Some wake up after a few years. Others leave, which proves that the products did not interest them that much ...
Let's put the fundamentals of commerce back at the center: a producer exchanges his product with a customer who gives him money, regardless of whether this customer is called “customer”, “partner”, “associate” or “distributor”. And like most activities, 5% of people are super good and the rest are very very average.
As an entrepreneur, you don't get paid when you're just average!
Good entrepreneurs barely earn what employees earn (with more trouble).
Exceptional entrepreneurs are paid what they have become.
If you need the certainty of getting paid, you have the right to consume the products, but please seek salaried work.
Hello Cyrille and thank you for the contribution.
Hello sir and thank you for this article.
I signed up for an MLM on cellular health 10 days ago, so your article is very interesting and on almost all points I agree and it was still my vision maybe 3 months ago.
So why did I go for it? Knowing that the concept of tupperware and other word of mouth and word of mouth annoys me.
Well for several reasons.
1) Human values, it is pleasant to meet in conferences near people who advise you so that you can develop your business because necessarily through these conferences they also have the goal of developing their business, not to be stupid either. After yes the sponsors are not always very present, but hey as you say, it depends and in my opinion they will quickly be overtaken by the young people who arrive on the market and who are thoroughly and they want to develop their team ( I met 2 yesterday, they earn 15000 euros per month)
2) It gives me a hobby since I am currently unemployed and why not continue when I have found a job.
3) I have nothing to lose, for the moment the membership is ridiculous 24 euros per year without obligation to purchase unless you start to sponsor but anyway the products do me good health level (being from the medical environment and pharma industry, I have also done research) so at worst if I don't develop anyone (I admit it's not as easy as I thought) well I'll use the products for myself.
4) Allowing future partners to learn new things, I find that fantastic, because you need to learn to progress.
5) It allows people to get out of their comfort zone, so for me it is the beginning of entrepreneurship with (oh happiness) a safety zone because we are not alone and the products in hand, because you are going to develop products or start a business for 24euros ...
6) I add, I see the potential of this MLM, given the youth of the concept, the quality of the products and the opening to new countries, there is potential. So I think that's the point: "believe in the concept, believe in the products, have fun advising it, but above all not be dependent on Yes or No"
That's why despite a Bac + 5 and a very good salary that will take several years before being compensated by the MLM I still decided to get started and it feels good. It's not the money that motivates me it's the values, the vision & strategy of the company and the feeling of being useful for the company.
After all, isn't it better for someone to earn 500 euros or 1000 euros more per month by networking than watching TV for 2 hours a day?
This is my vision and at worst we will resume our life before 😉
Good continuation
Marion
Hello Marion,
Thank you for the contribution.
Bravo Marion, I'm very much in the same vein.
MLM companies there are plenty of them. Still it is necessary to choose a serious one.
For my part I chose LR HEALTH AND BEAUTY. I am delighted.
YES it's difficult, YES you have to constantly question yourself, YES you have to find partners - YES you have to be trained, YES you have to be tenacious, YES you have to want it. Etc… ..
And so when one opens a business is this so different? Do not you need customers to run your business? Do not you have a little training before you undertake? Do you ever question yourself? AND in addition you need to have a stock, manage it, pay a license, rent a local to face the competition always stronger, loads that increase constantly. Stress, anguish of numbers, alienation, hours of madness, no vacation, all those things we do not have in MLM (maybe not all, at LR). So yes I prefer the MLM for all this freedom of action and its network always there to support us and help us move forward.
That's it, it's just my opinion and I like it and I believe it.
Hi,
I read your article with great interest. So I would like to go deeper into the title of the book?
I am starting an experience in network marketing and the rejection of the critical spirit and the amateurism expressed by the leaders bothers me enormously and blocks me in my advancement. Uneasiness sets in even though I had already become aware of all the points you raised. Thank you for your article which reassures me enormously on certain aspects of this activity!
Hello Thierry,
I just read your article and in my opinion there is a misuse of the word network marketing.
1. the money of the few winners comes from the constant registration of an army of future losers.
- Said this way you are referring to the pyramid or Ponzi scheme. A true MLM does not make money on signing up as a "loser". An MLM is simply a different structure than a traditional business.
2. Any citizen can become president of his country and yet there is only one place of freedom. If network marketing (mlm) is so easy, why is not the land filled with billionaires? And sometimes, to succeed in this area you have to be in bad faith ...
- We all (practically) go to school so why are there people less well paid than others?
3. We have a perfectly duplicable system!
- A method is necessary, people who retrain often come from a traditional professional environment or they have stopped thinking for themselves. By integrating an MLM (A real not a scam) they find themselves lost because they no longer have directives from their "boss".
4. You will be thrown into the lions' den, taking care to ask everyone about your product, including those who are hostile to network marketing and those who have no interest in buying your product.
- And if I decided to open an Italian restaurant, what is the difference here? I'm going to promote it and surely during this promotion I will run into people who don't like Italian food, right? But let's imagine that those people who don't like this food have friends who love Italian food… potential customers…
5. You fail because you are not motivated enough!
- You say it's a myth, but I don't think so. At the beginning of the year, many people sign up for the gym in order to achieve a physique that they really like, yet many people give up. Which is clearly a lack of motivation because we know that the key to success is persistence, a good way of working and eating. This proves that even with a “real” method which has proved its worth, humans give up.
6. Believe me, if these products were so good, these companies would not go through network marketing to promote them.
- I do not agree, by selling a product of m… the system collapses in a few days / months. In an ultra competitive world (in relation to consumer products / services) traditional marketing is expensive in order to make your brand known.
There are a lot of bad products in supermarkets and yet they are still thanks to the traditional marketing and the money these multinationals give to the government.
7.
I am disappointed to see that you have written ONLY 2 positive lines and that you have put them in the end.
- The examples you gave are from fraudulent MLMs.
8. Go on Facebook, and you will notice this: you hardly say hello to someone he answers already:
" Good morning or good evening. If you wish, I offer you the opportunity to earn 5000 € per month for only 30min of work per day. If you want to know more, tell me, I will send you the file here or on your email. It's a world exclusive and a revolutionary new concept. See you soon. ".
- It looks more like a pop-up than a business proposal.
9. You will be freer and you will have more time to spend with your family
- I am not sure that a specialist doctor, CEO or an independent spends a lot of time with his family. It's unfortunate that some people think that by working less, they can earn more… Financial freedom is hard earned.
10. Why leave a job that guaranteed you a monthly income to join a company that is unable to guarantee you a minimum of 30 € monthly after 6 months?
- What if tomorrow you get fired from your job? Stability no longer exists today. Ask those around you if any of their friends find themselves unemployed after choosing "security" by working for a monthly salary.
11. You can start your business with a minimum of investment
- You speak of pyramid system and not of an MLM.
12. If you invest time and money, then you will know the success
- This point is valid for any business.
13. The product sells itself!
- What type of "MLM" did you base your research on?
14. The product is so requested that there will always be a market
Oh? And what to say about:
Competition from other distributors in your company?
The hundred competing companies that distribute the same products around the world?
- Everyone has a phone today and yet Apple or Samsung does not seem to go broke
15. The residual network marketing income is based on the hard work of your referrals. It is still necessary that they remain active (they pay their monthly subscriptions). They must also sell products, recruit more people who will replace those already abandoned.
I don't see any difference with the owner of a company except maybe the terms.
Unfortunately, a lot of people who criticize MLM are people who are not successful in MLM or in their professional life. R. Kiyosaki who became a millionaire thanks to rental real estate speaks of this business as an opportunity for people to enjoy the advantages of having their own business without taking the risk by investing considerable sums.
PS: I am not part of an MLM, I am simply a consumer of certain MLM products that I find excellent.
Hello Alex,
My answer may surprise you, but ... I really appreciate your comment. This is precisely an important point for the debate and for changing mentalities. This is precisely the purpose of this article: To talk about the advantages and disadvantages of MLM. And I'm the first to recognize that all businesses have their pros and cons. The purpose of this article is not to denigrate MLM as many think, it is mostly about talking about the harmful aspect created by bad leaders.
Thanks again Alex.
Hello Alex,
I also find this to be a very relevant and very detailed comment. I appreciate your bringing together an MLM company and a “normal” business model company. It is important that everyone expresses themselves, there is no right or wrong solution, there are no good or bad systems, there is one that suits us or not.
Regarding products, there are indeed fraudulent companies.
If you hesitate to get started (or to consume a product or service), prefer companies that have been around for a long time, or even that are registered in your country (as you say so well, bad companies are quickly exposed!)
know one thing that your article is talking about that negative things you do not see what some network marketing companies can do to many! Most of what you say may actually be true but for some cases.
but behind this article I would think more than there is a frustrated man who tries to live with small ads that appeared on the page what I wish you! But you will never guess financially free with this method! You were wondering why there were always so many poor people on earth there are always because 80% of the world's wealth is held by 2% of the population! and 98 other percent spend their time reading articles or writing articles!
I can not let you spit on the values of some people behind your articles in the impression that most people want you badly if you want to spend your time working to not have a good luck retirement. I am a wealth management advisor and many people today are looking for solutions to get out I accompany them as a professional to achieve their goals you will also say that to find financial investment solutions that allows you to make income supplements are also negative network marketing!
Well it's not the same I admit but I do not allow you to spit on the job admirable people. know that there is a difference between people who sell essential services in marketing and those who sell magic potions! and know that a person who enters a marketing network and who is not followed behind I find it totally inadmissible, and last thing the people who accompany entrepreneurs to put money to start their business and that touches money on this startup is forbidden by law so yes actually some companies are doing illegal.
Have a great day or evening it will depend on you.
Thank you for the contribution Fakri
Bill Clinton defends relationship marketing.
Is writing a book showing that a Buisness defended by a former president of the United States is not a scam in itself? To sell or to click?
Typing error I ask the question again: is writing a book showing that business backed by a former president of the United States is a scam not in itself a scam in itself to sell or to make cliques? For my part, we were very clear from the start that it was a difficult job .... on the other hand, it is always on the internet that we demonstrate that it is a scam. I will be curious to know who will be able to prove to us live and face to face in front of Clinton Richard Bransan Brian Tracy by A + B that it is a scam. That day I will buy chips and popcorn in front of my TV and I will watch the show lool ...
Hello Thierry,
Thank you for all this analytical work on an area that I knew little about (I liked the Tupperwar meetings with my mom, the snacks were always delicious).
I now live in Africa and I see this kind of societies proliferating, I think that the "soil" is particularly suitable, it is a bit the same principle as the "thing-thing" churches.
It's a shame that pyramid trading laws don't apply here.
I will take the opportunity to share your article a maximum, maybe the pyramid will work?
I also thank all the “commentators” who allow us to open other doors.
Hello Taniah,
Thank you for the feedback. Glad I was helpful.
Hello,
I am appalled by Taniah's comment, Indeed network marketing is far from mum's petit fours, it's a job in its own right. Please inquire before talking about the pyramid system or the church ????
Hello Serge,
Not enough to be REALLY LANDED, I said that “I didn't know much” (no, I didn't write it down?)
Moreover I have nothing against this system and do not denounce it in any way. What I am just seeing is the diversion made by "crooks" on the African continent by organizing large forums all the way on the model of American shows such as churches, whose names I will not mention that go there. great shots of "miracle shows".
Once again I have nothing against the MLM system as long as it is used well, like everything else ...
The thorniest problem here, in my opinion, is the problem raised by uberization, which is no longer in accordance with the legislation in force, and whether the West can defend itself and somehow manage to do so against Uber for example, here it is a real evil which is added to a permanent misery, and it is lamentable, believe me Mr Serge of what to be landed in the first sense of the term.
You previously replied to Paolo that you did not know JM international and well it is for me to advise you to inquire and believe me they do not pride the system and they suspect a lot of harm to a company like yours, I have a friend who sells South African aloe products through this, I'll see I don't know if it's the same company as yours, but here I find the system good, because there is A REAL PRODUCT… well, in short, REAL SALES
Reflection interests me beyond MLM because in the end it is a reflection of society, we must avoid, even if I understand it to be only navel-gazing, if we want to see beyond this our own balcony, it is practices like that which abound and which in turn push thousands of people to the bottom of the Mediterranean… yes yes enough to be “bitter”…. and the ricochets sometimes go very far… ..
So really sorry if my little comment has "landed" you, really it was without this intention and it is the same for this one if you take the trouble to put things in context, yes MLM is part of a whole (like any other element) which is called SOCIETY or MONDIALISATION, which others call “Le Petit Monde”…. do not lose sight of the word "Small" as an adjective of world ... it is a simple advice ...
Taniah,
Really thank you for this comment. It is clear and is based on concrete elements. That's all I ask of all those who come to blindly defend MLM. The article has a constructive purpose, it is out of the question for some to make believe that ALL is well in network marketing and it is necessary to launch it with closed eyes.
I hope Serge will understand your point of view, because I avoid censorship on this blog out of respect for all points of view. But I think I will sometimes delete comments that do not change the debate.
Thanks again…
Hello Dono,
I started some time ago in MLM, I think you might be interested in our business if you read the article correctly. Because it is clear that it is an activity which will require more or less work according to your ambitions.
Yes there is money to do this, yes you can come out changed, yes you have free and paid training and yes you have teams and a community behind you. But it will depend exclusively on YOU, you have to be ready and honest with yourself even if you start. It's not the world of care bears, but if you give yourself the means you can do it, that's what the 2% do and it's not always easy otherwise they wouldn't be 2%. If not, don't waste your time and work on yourself first.
If you are still interested I invite you to contact me privately.
Thank you Axel for this constructive comment. That's all we ask.
Hello excuse me to disturb you I would like to know what are the good network marketing site that we can start and training thank you
I arrived at the end of the article .... More than curiosity
As far as my experience is concerned, I've been doing Network Marketing for over a year and I'm getting a good income supplement.
Why not simply say that MLM is a real job and like any job it can not be learned in a month.
Many people think that they will earn money right away without investing, without forming ahahah. What a shame ... And no it is not a lottery ticket.
Moreover you explain that it is a system based only on recruitment out if it was the case it would not be the MLM but a pyramid system. In most MLM companies only 5% of people develop, others consume the products that are remembered are of higher quality than those found in the classic chain because the ad is made only by word of mouth.
Usually the consumer pays on average 50% of the price of the product for its advertising, its distribution network ... I think 89% of people who read this article have a box "Tupperware" in their kitchen.
Anyway, I'll be able to write just as long as your article, but what's the point? All sensible people will look for explanations in the figures of this industry. She will go and find out who are the company directors at the head of these companies, such celebrities as Richard Branson, Warren Buffet ...
Finally this comment does not go in your direction, but if you are open-minded and accept criticism then you will accept it.
Hi,
If you read this blog well, you would see that it is full of articles that go against our view of things. So why am I going to delete it. Here it is published.
Completely bogus article..I understand the blog's themes: blogpascher.com! Sir, when you want to do journalism, you learn about the subjects you want to tackle! You dare to come and talk about relationship marketing when you have absolutely no idea what to talk about! As proof, I quote "you need to build a network of around 1000 active people"! It s just a huge joke! Have you thought about the simple possibility of sponsoring just 8 people .. And teaching them how to do the same? How many people will be part of your 8th rank network? I'll let you calculate! This will prevent you from saying anything! And get out of your little world a bit, get closer to people who are successful in MLM! I present you dozens of them, when you want.
hi Thierry
I am a young person who is interested in marketing. I read your article. I hear about the JM International company with its powerful revolutionary system support. I want to know what about network marketing. and what are your recommendations for good network marketing. thank you
hi. I am a 23 year old boy I enjoyed reading. I want to know which professional marketing company is reliable today, because I hear more about the JM international company with its revolutionary system support. what does he have? enlighten me . thank you
Hello,
I do not know her. Sorry.
Hi Paolo
I don't know JM international, for my part I am a distributor of aloe vera products, our partner's compensation plan is very interesting, if you want to know more, contact me:
cordially
hi i would like to know which box it is because i want to get into network marketing
Hello Thierry
Before it was somewhat distorted in religious scriptures, there was a golden rule widely taught by sages in antiquity "Don't think about doing to others what you would not like others to think of do yourself ”, (which unfortunately became in the bible“ do not do to others what you would not like to do to others ”)
Since the day when a being of a remarkable quality "taught" it to me, I understood to what extent thought is creative, and how it was useful for me to control the benevolence of my thoughts towards anyone. , and in return, whatever it is, and that whatever the situations I had to live.
This led me to be wary like the plague of “my points of view, the con…” (which I nevertheless welcome with a lot of benevolence). Because I don't know if you've ever noticed this, we humans have a point of view on everything! This is not a problem in itself. But where it really starts to be a problem is that without realizing it too much, we have the very annoying tendency to consider that our point of view is the only truth!
And what does it give in life? Tutes sorts of discussions, so-called exchanges, debates on the radio, on TV, and tien, now more and more on blogs!
Finally any blog on which the exchanges do not respect the golden rule stated above, does it deserve the title or the status of "blog"? Maybe it would be fairer to baptize him? for example? »BlogPasCherAlaCon»! See there only a benevolent and humorous wink and especially not any belligerent intention towards you, because sincerely this is not my intention)
Dear Thierry, I have no doubt that there is a good intention behind your writing. I invite you, however, if you will, to differentiate between the truth about… .., and your points of view! As such I encourage you in your communication to always make the difference between the facts, (which are indisputable) and the interpretation you have of these facts, and to have the intellectual honesty to clarify this to your readers and not to present your views as "the truth"!
You will see that everyone will be better off, starting with you!
You have better things deep inside you to share with others than breaking free sugar on one activity (neither better nor less than another) by using a catchy title, announcing an information process, then that your real intention seems to be to promote and sell your products and services! And that you do not say it before posting your title "touting". A bit like this person who will tell you that they have something good to relieve your ailment without telling you that they themselves are a reseller of this product, and that they will benefit from it if you buy it !
It just goes to show that what we don't like about other people could just be a reflection of who we are!
Hello Philippe,
I validate your comment like many others to show that it is indeed a constructive article contrary to what you think.
All I ask you is to provide constructive advice, to present this other facet of the MMLM.
Just for info, sorry but no other non-educational notices for readers or any other free insults will be validated.
Very good comment, I think in the sense that a blog is used to discuss points of view and not break sugar on an activity to promote another.
We have enough misinformation made by manipulators manipulated.
Your link to download your e-book does not work.
I would like to have it anyway please, doing MLM I will be happy to have a critical eye thank you.
PS: the tight writing on the right and the advertising for your training which moves are very disagreeable and encourages to leave the blog. It's my opinion.
Hello Romain,
Thanks for the remark on the elements that move. But I do not see text aligned right.
Thank you so much . I almost got scammed
To the reader of your article I had the impression that viys talk about the company and the sponsor who wanted me recruited
From nothing Lazib
Sincerely your article is great, there are no bosses we are all partners .. Lol .. I did MLM in a JM OCEAN AVENUE network, or after you realize that the leaders are revered more than the bosses of conventional companies, we speak of a lot of love, of a big family, but in reality of the big nonsense, you are important when you are prospect once inside you understand that you become a subordinate, the spiral is terrible, at one point you feel yourself sinking into the shit. But hope gives life to the poor .. You hold on by ruining yourself more .. Because we make you understand that you may be close to opening the right door ... Lol. At least for me it is very dishonest to pretend that everyone with willpower can only get by in this activity. I believe that they are really smart instead of paying the media and people for work honestly to sell their product take advantage of the ignorance and naivety of others to make big money while spending less !.
Hello Jean Jacques,
Without wanting to be unpleasant, I believe that you did well to stop because this activity is not made for you. It is true of perseverance, really wanting to go further, it is the same for all creators of classic business, without work it goes bankrupt. Throwing the blame on another does not change anything; To bounce back from your comments "I think they are big clever people instead of paying the media and people to work honestly to sell their product take advantage of the ignorance and naivety of others to make big money by spending less !. Being smart doesn't mean being dishonest, I see it more as a quality. Personally I am no smarter than most people and I do network marketing honestly and do not see “leaders” as gods who are worshiped but rather as people who have a vested interest in what. you succeeded in order to succeed themselves.
Yours.
I share this opinion
Hello, everyone, I followed with interest the different interventions of each other, I conclude that the MLM releases few winners, but many losers, which looks like the pyramid business, which leads to the end of course to the ruin of the "lower masses" (new recruits). MLM without a product to sell becomes pyramidal, therefore a scam, and I thank Thierry for his ebook, because it sheds a lot of light on this ebusiness, which he do not cross the safeguards and know how to limit the risk at the right time.
Cordlt
Hello everybody
The article as pointed out by its author, only covers the myths of network marketing so indeed to all readers I recommend looking for the positive sides.
Personally I am a consumer distributor and do not feel in any way concerned or hurt by this article (a wise man in your both).
I do not propose dreams, only I really wish to help my neighbor to realize his own but not without working.
The work is necessary and only a good motivation and the help of his "sponsor" allows to get there.
I find this discussion necessary, and again recommend that interested people educate themselves well, Network Marketing is a great thing provided it is practiced well.
cordially
Serge
Hello Thierry,
Very nice article and I thank for all this information.
personally I was contacted by a group of friends to join an MLM. but before getting started I started searching on the internet. so I am on your article and read many comments in different newsgroups.
the main remark I made is that the people who speak positively about MLM are: either those who have just joined the networks and who benefit from the first commissions (it's true it works, it works) or people whose MLM system has just arrived in their countries and who are dazzled by words like: easy and quick earnings, being your own boss, having financial independence and all the blah that goes with it.
Afterwards, and as time goes by, the comments are more and more in MLS's favor. I didn't understand anything at all until I came across your article which allowed me to understand the reasons.
furthermore, I find it hard to see myself engaging in an activity where I will put the relationship with my friends, my family at stake by seeing them as potential gains that can help expand my network by harassing them all the time.
"Where is the true value of friendship to go?" It seems that the lure of profit is increasingly taking over human relations
Hello,
I am very happy to read this article which I find very well done. I also worked a few months in MLM and I saw everything you said there. If I had seen your article earlier ... I actually think anyone who wants to start MLM should read this, even if MLM is successful. They should take all these points into account. What shocked me the most about the team I was in was the mental manipulation. Be careful, I'm not saying that all MLM companies are like that, I felt like I was in a sect: my trainer lied to me, humiliated me, constantly distorted reality, made me feel guilty, imposed dogmas on me (even in my private life): he dictated to me how I should live and always spoke to me as if I knew nothing about life (without inquiring) and robbed me of all my self-esteem. At the beginning, he complimented me then very quickly my qualities became his and I was no longer worth anything, according to him. He also wanted to force me to read self-help books and claimed to know better than I did how I should manage my privacy. He didn't respect me. He was malicious towards weaker customers too, but only towards weaker ones. In short, I felt little free and not very well surrounded in this job. I want to explain by this story that MLM gives a lot of freedom, especially so little structure and that this can lead to some drifts .. I still do not regret this experience which allowed me to acquire certain additional skills and which Still teaches me today to be more vigilant in my relationships. I find that you have to stay tuned to your emotions, even in the professional world.
Hello Melissa,
Thank you for this feedback. Hope she helps other people. I also think that one can be successful in MLM, but as I explain in this ebook there are very few and the system is not designed to allow everyone to be successful.
Courage for the future.
Hello, thank you for this article, if I can add anyway, there are network marketings which have none of the myths mentioned… Especially after having read dozens of books and attending a lot of conference on the subject. Your article describes more the scams of the 90s than the Relationship Marketing of the 21st century ... I find it a shame for the person who will be destroyed by his "omniscient" entourage after reading this article. If he's a leader in him he'll survive haha
PS: I was bad at everything, I struggled to sell, I made a little income anyway ...
The trainings are very formative I find.
Thanks for the contribution Naviks
Hello Thierry,
I beg you to speak to me!
I have read your entire article very carefully.
I myself am a developer, I started after 3 years of hard work managed to build a rather interesting network, but all this is due to certain points that you have named in this article and that those who are starting out in this field must achieve.
Indeed, it is not enough to be motivated, to say why, and to be patient.
You need a real methodology, well-established strategies, sanity checks (to constantly take corrective measures), processes and have the spirit of a marketer or negotiator.
Being myself from the marketing field, I confirm that mlm is not necessarily within everyone's reach, a bit like in a position and the specific profile that a company is looking for, this is not all profiles that match no matter their good will.
In my opinion, MLM is a new way of working (especially in a world) where unemployment is very present, growth is stagnating and the crisis is still striking, but it is certain that to come and take refuge behind this concept as a miracle source is An ineptitude.
You have to be trained, you still have to have the spirit of analysis, have strategies, and know how to sell (be careful, I am not talking about its famous distributors who lie at all costs to have referrals) but you still have to have this charisma that makes people want to come and follow in this concept / product / service, because despite everything, in the same way as Non-Verbal Communication is the first thing that strikes the eye of the spectators at 75% during presentations , it is above all for the moral qualities / insurance / the art of communication which will appeal to newcomers at the same rate.
So yes there is money to be made.
Yes there are some interesting concepts.
Yes, there is a different quality of life than staying in the office, but it is above all a real job, which requires a lot of personal investment (time / money and mental) to achieve it and that depending on innate qualities or not of the person.
So of course you could have put a more positive touch on the end of your article or in a hurry that this excerpt comes from your ebook (and that it is linked to the context) so as not to discourage the valiant ones who might have been the potential to achieve it, but it's a nice article regardless.
It was a pleasure to read you!
cordially
Hello Gregory,
Thank you for this feedback on MLM. It is much appreciated and respected.
In fact, in the ebook and the article, I make it clear that this is the hidden side of Network Marketing and even though this article only addresses the negative part, I agree with you that there are some who live quite easily from this activity. But you know, sometimes you have to be brutal in the speech, if you want to raise awareness.
Thank you for the feedback.
Hello everyone, just a precious detail: Relationship marketing is constantly evolving. It is a profession which does not cease growing because we are in the era of entrepreneurship. On the other hand, it is very important to learn about the various existing networks because indeed, crooks are hiding there. I am developing this style of project with a FRENCH supplier, FRENCH PRODUCTS and under the guise of FRENCH laws. Recognized by the legislator, this activity continues to generate wealth collectively. Today we call it the sharing economy ... Times are changing, money is changing streets ... farewell capitalism and another obsolete paradigm that plagues our society ... My project is moving forward, my why is solid, and I recommend to anyone who has ambition, to try the adventure, because it enriches, and it also makes it possible to understand why our system does not enhance our profession at all. It doesn't help the lobbies at all, so the state, so the system in which people unconsciously rot their minds… It's called formatting from birth, to DREAM LITTLE….
Hello Thierry
thank you for your great article, and I admit I smiled a lot!
- smile at the veracity and humor of your warnings: we are really not in the land of care bears. in that it is identical to any job, the difference is that by recruiting us, we are made to believe it.
- also smiled at the virulent and aggressive comments of some: to those 3 questions, how long have you been in network marketing? how many hours a day do you actually work and for how long have you been regularly earning a lot of money to be rich?
In France I joined a first network of tax exemption, which I abandoned following a reflection from an advisor to a team leader "but what you say goes against the interests of the client" - answer “The customer who cares you are there to make money”… .really incompatible with my own ethics! but a cruel reality of behavior
I was recruited by another tax exemption network: the sponsors were good, really. they had the sense of the team and took care a lot of their advisers giving them free time and training. some succeeded others not and those who failed were not made for this job. my sponsors could show personal success.
For my part, I sold and I loved the product and the approach that went with it, but I did not have a superb success.
today I have lived in Canada for 8 years and I am on my 4th sales solicitation in network marketing! I had no trouble rejecting 3- the last one has more fun, but I won't go, I'm not at all sure I'm made for this type of work unless it's the product that does not suit me… .. I think I have too many questions !!
there are essential qualities to be successful in network marketing and no sales method (all the same !!), no “Big Annual Mass” with speeches from leaders, “The” achievement of the year award, trips won and all the window dressing generously and hypocritically distributed that day will never give to any advisers
- have a deep and real self-confidence
- you have to love the product whatever it is, believe in it and have confidence and believe in the company
- do not be afraid to phone to canvass, or go to others to offer the product (I'm not talking about the family who want to encourage us) - you need nerve like a real sales representative
- IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK - again and again to find prospects, to make appointments, to follow up, to follow up - you have to work during the day, may also often in the evening or on weekends - all those who say the opposite lie. and you always have to work a lot because if you do not maintain your position you are demoted and you lose the commissions on the team put in place.
I lacked certain qualities, in particular the regularity and constancy in the work ...
but if you have the main qualities I am talking about, that you are really determined to work hard and take up challenges that you have a sense of the team and have leadership qualities: go for it, you will succeed and earn a lot of money . I have friends or ex colleagues who have done very, very well.
I wish a lot of happiness in this difficult job with great potential for those who will really give it themselves. as for the others, critical, aggressive, acerbic, rude and certainly frustrated, start with the BA BA: love yourself and know how to hear what people like Thierry explain and try to learn from it profitable lessons for you that will move you forward in life.
All my friendships and thanks Thierry
Hello Dominique,
It is certainly the most beautiful and the most constructive of the comments received on this blog. You don't just say whether it's good or not, you share your MLM experience in the most humble and most importantly, the most complete way. Thanks again.
Thierry
Hello !
Not bad the article.
My opinion is mixed. On the one hand you are right about the fact that MLM does not make you rich. But you didn't specify the condition, it doesn't make you rich if you do it wrong. And yes the lies exist. But the truth is it's like in all areas. Why are some musicians more successful than others? Because some have a good "method", a good mindset (do you want to make money for yourself or help people?), And they are at peace with themselves or at least on their way.
Moreover, it is not the most competent who succeed, but those who succeed in making the most of the resources which are given to them and which they find in their path. Those who practice instead of just theorizing. Those who simply go for it, and who have the ambition and the necessary determination. And often those who have a good sense of communication. (but it trains eh) So those who really succeed are those who are on a spiritual path. Some call it personal development, I call it the path to inner peace (leading to that on the outside).
To quickly complete the idea of recruiting 20 distributors, no. It's no use, and it shows that the method is not good. You might as well have 000 distributors, who themselves recruit 5 others each and so on. 5 to the power of 5 (it's never more than that at the level of bearings otherwise it's dangerous): 7 in downline, and that's more than enough, at this stage, moreover, it's very comfortable, no need to more in my opinion, unless you're megalomaniac and greedy.
People in fact don't focus on what they should be focusing on. They give up because they cannot question themselves. And that's the problem, success in this industry comes with a lot of questioning and change (not just in this industry eh, in life actually). So yes, some have good training, which actually allows them to understand the system itself and how to succeed in it while revealing themselves to themselves. Besides, Eric Worre wrote a great book called Go Pro, for those who want to be successful in MLM, it's a must have.
The risk of saturation is very far, it is probable (Amway has been around for 30 years, eh) but we can make the analogy with fridges, everyone has a fridge, yet it still sells a lot. Suddenly this famous saturation is only theoretical, at the time of today at least.
Another reality is, if the resources were distributed fairly, we would have $ 3 million each at this very moment. Some people try to rebalance things in their own way, not sure if it works, in any case, there is no fault of not having tried.
Yes my opinion is largely in favor of MLM. On the one hand, I would tell you that it is only the reflection of our greatest enemy: ourselves. Some will tell you that MLM is perfect and that it can solve the world's problems, I don't believe it, but it can help some people. And I find MLM to be just as ethical as any kind of sales and competition. The problem is not MLM, it is much deeper, it is Man's relationship with himself and the world around him.
Yes my post is quite destructured and is sloppy, it shows that I skimmed the article without immersing myself in it. I will read it again later, if we can edit it, I will do it and I will answer you. I am open to any discussion, but tomorrow, because now I am very tired 🙂
A good word, good evening to you.
And as our friend Sylvain Durif would say,
Love and Compassion
Brice
Good evening Brice,
No, on the contrary, I am happy to have an opinion such as yours because it complements my point of view quite well. I have deliberately chosen to speak about the negative aspect of Network Marketing, but nowhere am I saying it is not an opportunity. Thanks for this post.
Thierry
The consistency with you, the enthusiasts of MLM, is that once absorbed the basic assumptions (completely eccentric), you defend them staunchly with great blows of dogmas made of crepe paper. You would be shown in a fanciful way that 1 = 2, you would defend it wildly with great blows of self-persuasion.
You exploit people and, the worst thing is that you claim it on all the blogs with large spurts of prefabricated hypocritical articles which are only a pretext for self-promotion.
MLM has been around for over 60 years (at 2 sponsorships per year, it would be 1 trillion, or 1 billion times the world population). If his system was so exponential, how come it's still at the same point?
No matter how you answer whoever listens, "for me, it works!" ", If your system was so exceptional and the whole planet had entered MLM, and I was the only last (in the world?). You sponsor me. Who am I sponsoring? Dexter Yager? Uneven system.
When building a house of cards without a foundation, it often collapses in the same way.
QED
I have been VDI MLM.
My experience (not so good) here: https://curtiszone.wordpress.com/2016/02/21/alors-le-mlm-arnaque-ou-pas-arnaque/
Hello Curtis,
Nobody degrades MLM here, everyone shares their experience like you, then it's up to the readers to make the right decision. This is why comments like yours on networking are not deleted, because the goal is to edify all aspiring mlm distributors.
Thierry
Here is which is more fair! I think that, like all trades, the MLM has its warts but also its beautiful things! there are scam mechanics, but we cannot shame the profession of mechanic! it's up to everyone to do in-depth research on what they want and what they are offered! I have done several MLMs and have seen this! it's .. just a job like any other where everyone can express themselves to their extent. Today it is recognized by the authorities, as much legal by the VDI or auto-entrepreneur status of your choice, or by the tax system, which was not the case a few years ago, where the media were a joy to systematically dismantle this kind of thing, or even the anti-sect associations that had not made the difference between a network company and a sect.These times are over, everyone can exercise their right without to be worried on condition that he does things in order of course. Which seems to me a very good thing, because without wanting to speak of a billionaire, when you can generate a few thousand euros per month, in addition to a job, it is something pleasant for an overwhelming majority of people, especially nowadays when the crisis is really hard.
Hello,
First of all thank you for your article and congratulations for your writing.
I have just discovered the Mlm and it tempts me strongly. I have sold everything and I think (after this is my opinion) that selling a sponsorship is not difficult for a good speaker / seller with a minimum of thought… (insurance, products, banks ..)
I am also a big party animal. Result, a lot of knowledge and a good flow, wouldn't it be the ideal situation for this type of job?
But one thing bothers me… It seems too easy and I can't help but think of a pyramid scheme. In short, everything is fine for 5-10 years, but when the chain breaks its mouth, you take it all… Indirectly you breed people lower than you and basically only the top of the list are really winners.
The promises of big sums seem to me really too enticing and easy to get and I do not understand why commission sellers like me would have been shit to sell small thing rather than do this?
How is it that such a remunerative system is so little known?
Your article explains a lot of things but I was wondering if in concrete terms by selling an MLM product we are selling an insurance or rather a necessary service. What I'm trying to say is that indirectly we hire people who would not like to be hired and we do even worse than a salesperson on commission but indirectly?
I thank you in advance for your answer.
Greetings
Yan
I still forgot some details!
Searching the internet a bit ... I have a strong imprecision that a lot of comments are posted by companies promoting mlm and I see a lot of identical comments on a lot of forums and blogs.
As if people were paid to get a good image of the Mlm.
Yes I confirm it because I also made this observation a few years ago.
Hello Yan,
I see your questions, but no question about me.
Very good article. Thank you Thierry.
I share your arguments because I just told my own MLM experience (not so good) on my blog and that the points are extremely similar: https://curtiszone.wordpress.com/2016/02/21/alors-le-mlm-arnaque-ou-pas-arnaque/
Hello Curtis,
Very good article about the reality of MLM companies. You ask the right questions.
An article written by an incompetent, false all along the line!
Hello Charly,
Instead of saying that everything is false, I gave reasons that everyone can verify, and you what are yours to attest to what you say?
Very funny Charly… but you know BlogPasCher cannot agree with all those who do not even bother to read their articles.
Hello Thierry,
Perfect your article !! Exactly what I went through and I am one of the 98% of those who left mlm !! I hadn't asked for anything at the start !! I was just looking on the internet for a product to relieve my pain… and I was offered the product and the promise to stop paying for it by sponsoring and to earn money.
Everything you describe is the strict truth, no offense to some !! MLM admittedly 2% are successful and a lot of people do it honestly, but it really is a scam and we are just lying to you.
Every sentence, every word you wrote on your article is the pure truth and everything you describe has happened to me and I mean everything !! So maybe in the eyes of some I am a naïve moron etc etc… but they I think they are lying to themselves and would do better to learn the definition of humility !! All those who recruit tell you that they make a very good living with MLM but none of them can prove it to you and if you ask them to see their back office !! heheh so this is top secret and it's personal and they tell you that they don't have to show it to you… You have to believe and drink their words, and they earn so much money without doing anything that put pressure on you non-stop on skype as soon as you don't sponsor etc ... lol
Bravo Thierry for your franchise on the MLM
Hello Wire,
Another sincere person who speaks from his experience. And you do well to stress that your sponsor will never (or almost) show you his dashboard because he does not want you to discover the harsh reality that awaits you.
At first everyone is nice to you, but then you are abandoned for a new member who must be seduced quickly.
Well, not everyone is always dishonest. 😉
Hello Thierry
Thank you for this pretty complete article.
It seems to me that a moral, or rather ethical, or deontological observation is nevertheless missing ...
Yes network marketing can be honest, like all forms of direct sales, yes it can be remunerative, etc., etc.
The question of substance is not THAT.
What I blame most about these forms of sale is their deliberately confusing nature between the prescriber's primary motivation, being paid, and his only discourse displayed: to give good friendly and disinterested advice. When I go to a store I have no doubt about the motivation of the seller and the fact that all his arguments will be in favor of the vaunted quality of these products. It is up to me to think and to exercise discernment. But when a friend intervenes with me to tell me that he has tried a product that should suit me, that he sends me to a site where I can find him (without telling me that if I order it will have a commission) , I am not in a situation of caution, questioning the pros and cons, I am relieved to receive a notice allowing me to make a purchase decision on which, failing that, I could have remained undecided.
I really think this breach of trust is unworthy. It totally betrays the capital of trust that unites us. He does not tell me, "It's okay, I'm a reseller of a product that might interest you," he says, "I'm using a product I recommend."
And this method of sale is explicitly advised by the parent companies. This marketing transforms a part of my network of friends and relations into dishonest little shopkeepers almost in spite of themselves, because they often become more by despair than by greed.
Let us be specific about the importance of qualifying these practices.
I have a friend who sells home appliances. When I saw her robot at home and I was interested, she first told me "Indeed, I am a dealer" and then "I think it's great". For two years, I have not bought it yet, I would probably soon. She did not raise me. She told me I'm making a demo when you want. She lives full-time in this activity and I have nothing to complain about.
I have another friend that I know in trouble. She sees one day one of my post on Facebook where I evoked the pains concerning the consequences of an accident. She said to me "Have you tried this type of painkiller? It's very effective, I had the same problem as you and it really relieved me. " Then, "You can find it at this web address". It was a sub-site on his own. Then, "Have you tried? ". Then ... etc, etc ... I was so ashamed for her!
Thus, these sales methods participate directly in the increase in the amorality of the economy of the individual for himself and of the self. Everything that is legal is not necessarily probe. Everything that is not forbidden, is not necessarily a model of conduct in favor of a quality living together.
Hello Laurent,
What more can I say after such a detailed comment? Nothing I think.
Thank you for these examples which perfectly illustrates the reality in this environment as in many others on working from home on the internet. It's a pretty edifying comment and much appreciated 😉
Sincerely,
Thierry
Hello, very informative as a site
Hello Thierry,
I have to recognize the quality of your article, even if I do not entirely agree with you.
Indeed, there are many, many myths in network marketing. But I don't think these myths are made by MLM, but rather by some people who are not very ethical and especially unscrupulous and greedy for money. They target the weak and vulnerable and promise them to get rich without doing anything or easily.
Alongside these leeches, there are very many companies that have prospered for decades by offering quality products or services and which do not require exorbitant entry fees, or recurring subscriptions and provide free training.
But it is also true that for a few years now many companies are blooming on the internet that offer only virtual products that no longer require any direct contacts. And in fact, we are talking only of monthly royalties and actually raises the question of formations. But is it still relational marketing?
In conclusion, I would say that network marketing is a great opportunity which is certainly not made for everyone, but which can allow either additional income or much more through hard work and perseverance.
Sincerely,
Michel
Good night Michel,
In fact, in this article I am not saying that this is a bad thing. I just chose to talk about the negative part which doesn't mean that people like you who I know are honest don't exist. 🙂
Sincerely,
Your friend
A beautiful bullshit that you just wrote. I have been doing Network Marketing for 1 year and making a good living. I have no diploma and was not cut out for study, I even imagine myself ending my life in poverty. The money I earn is due to the fact that my customers pay their packages every month, and I earn 10% on each invoice. So your bullshit about the top that we get paid with future scam is false. Many partnerships with the greatest and stars do the same activity as me. One of the Williams sisters in particular, the singer florida as well as mickeal Jordan. I will be able to quote you still good numbers. Do you think that partnerships and stars would engage in large-scale scams? I do not believe no!
Criticism cannot lead to failure.
Hello Loick,
Maybe you should have started with a hello… 🙂
I am not going to repeat the questions I asked to all those who insulted this article… because I see that you did not understand the meaning of my point.
I would just like to tell you that just because a star does something doesn't necessarily mean she is good and ethical. Like you, most of these people get into this business just to make a profit and not to help others.
I am not criticizing mlm, I am just pointing out a few obscure aspects of this type of business.
-The arguments are not very convincing to exculpate you on your bludgeoning of the MLM
-You place yourself on a platform with a strong opinion of your 'inner self'
- You have to go down a few steps before your brain explodes.
- The fact of denigrating or rebelling on the lies of a part of the profession in the MLM, it is too easy “Life is made of lies. "
-You only seek the approval of bad thoughts through the answers you hope to meet.
- Only for mercantile purposes, it is too easy to rely on the potential of the remaining 98% to only offer your services.
- You try to play with human nature, it's really disastrous to get there ...
- MLM has been part of our life for years, you have to take some and leave some ...
- But it's up to everyone to see for themselves, and there is enough warning on the web to make their opinion good or bad ...
[: Bd]
Hello Eusébio,
If you had started with a hello I think it would have been very appreciated by all the people who subscribed to the comments of this article.
You say so many things at once that I get a little confused. And like many others you spent your time throwing stones at me without making any contribution.
I chose to speak for a reality, you should do the same by telling readers what they need to do to be successful in network marketing. I think it will be 1000 times more constructive.
Again, what is said in this article is it false or true?
Sincerely,
Thierry
Hello Thierry,
Would you have personal accounts to settle with the MLM to propose this article worthy of massacre to the chainsaw handwritten version?
Because if it is true that the net is teeming with scams of all kinds (and not just MLM), there are still people, networks who work honestly and who will suffer the full brunt of the consequences of your murderous article.
Not all MLMs impose astronomical dues and castles in Spain.
Knowing an MLM in particular, he offers in return for the contribution of 8 euros / month, a set of tools worth more than 1500 euros usable for any business.
Nothing is imposed.
And not to be ruined by paying 8 euros / month.
This system can be used to promote MLM, of course, but it can also be used to develop any business.
All this, I say and repeat it for 8 euros / month.
In addition, recruitment is not taxed and this formula still allows you to earn commissions while being passive.
The nuance is important and we should avoid shooting red bullets on all network marketing activities.
It would have been opportune to talk also about the positive side of the MLM and not to break it shamelessly.
If, as you claim, your article is part of an ebook and it is diluted in its content, it remains true that this article as it is presented, here, participates in the outright lynching of network marketing.
I do not think you have the overall and sufficient knowledge of network marketing to be able to write this nauseous tirade.
I think I remember that not so long ago you were the object of criticism, just like other web marketers, Aurélien Amacker, for example, criticisms formulated against the expensive training courses that you offer. .
I even think Amacker's site was hacked. An act that I condemn but which, despite everything, reflects what a fringe of Internet users may think.
You are not knights draped in garments of light and defenders of ethics and morals.
I do not want in any way to pose as a defender of network marketing but I believe that it was my duty to counterbalance your remarks which seem to come from a person determined to slay, without concession, the activities of other people without distinction between good and bad.
Regards
José
Hello Jose,
Thanks for your contribution. It's very appreciated. 🙂
I just have two questions:
1. Is there anything I said in my article that is wrong? If yes which one?
2. Did you only understand that I chose to speak only of the negative part? (I specify it elsewhere).
For your information, I have also published many articles on the disadvantages of blogging, internet marketing, and everything related to the entrepreneurial profession. My blog in fact devoted to this.
You speak of my name in the list of crooked marketers, I did not want to complain to the one who cited me in this list because the one who published it (the list) got it from an email that he received himself because he was affiliated with Aurélien Amacker's program. And my name was among those who had made a sale of his training.
For you I have two good news:
1. I was a beginner at the time and never received a single penny from this commission. It's still on my clickbank account.
2. My training, Ecole-du-blogueur.com only sells for € 89 after testing € 1 for three days. So contrary to your free statements, I do not sell training courses for more than 90 €. Considering the quality of the content offered, it's anything but expensive.
This is what explains the fact that I never had a refund request. 🙂
Very good explanations, I wish you a beautiful day 😉
Sincerely,
Thierry
thank you bcp for all these tips that will allow me to know all the tricks of the trade before committing me, I am at least advised and my risks and peril.
Glad to know.
Hello Thierry
I am very happy to read this article. I also downloaded your ebook which I started to read. He's fascinating. I will recommend it very well to my downlines to really see who believes in this activity.
Studying Network Marketing for 2 years is a lot different than practicing Network Marketing for 2 years. Everything you said about network marketing, you can apply it well to internet marketing. Network marketing is entrepreneurship.
If you think and believe that you can be successful then you can. Whether people fail or not, that is not the problem. You are the problem. It is a business that you are building. So if you don't know why you are building your business and that this business has to contribute to the success of others, then YOU will fail and it is neither the MLM's fault nor the fault of your sponsor or any other reason apart from YOU.
I think you do not know network marketing. Do you want to follow a thief of dreams? The mlm is a legal activity.
It is true that by reading the article, we want to run away from MLM. Yet for two years that I practice this activity, I have fun, I decided to help my partners to evolve and to earn money and it works.There are a lot of dropouts and they are always the ones people who do not come to “free” training.
It is true that I have decided to speak frankly; It is possible to earn large sums but not without doing nothing, training is important, this job is simple but it is not easy and it gives us a lot of satisfaction especially when we see a new one having qualifiers
Good evening Philipe,
I see that you have understood very well the direction I am trying to give this article.
What you are saying is entirely true and YES we can also earn money on the internet thanks to MLM. Unfortunately most of the people who join this industry (like everyone else too) do so only to get rich, not to be useful.
And for those who do not yet know it then remember this: the one who wants to be rich (usually) seeks miracle opportunities, while the one who wants to be useful tries to understand the needs and then trains himself to develop an adequate skill.
Thank you again for your comment, it is much appreciated.
In my opinion, any marketing candidate-distributor required the Company,
before starting any activity, an App for smartphone or other electronic tools.
In a few clicks, it could receive network construction scenarios,
According to its own targets. It would be simple, objective and
the most effective guard against the illusion dealers. I suspect that none
Society will not spontaneously play the game of transparency. He must be made to do so.
How? 'Or' What? By national law or better still European. Long and hard fight! ...
but up to the challenge.
Gabriel Lefizelier
Gabriel, I totally disagree with you.
First of all, I would just like to react to one point vis-à-vis the author. MLM (multi level marketing) literally translates to multi level marketing or multi level selling. It is important to underline this and to avoid using the term network marketing because this term is also used for marketing and commercial actions on the scale of a network without remuneration by level, so in this case it no longer about MLM. It is therefore better to use the right translations to avoid misunderstandings.
Then concerning your comment Gabriel, demanding a law to regulate the sector is not a solution. A lot of companies use MLM (the company Tupperware was built on it by the way) in a legal and transparent way and scams in this sector are actually far fewer than they appear. They make a lot of noise because a scam can affect several hundred or even several hundred thousand people.
But be aware that these scams are only carried out by 1% of companies practicing MLM. It's a bit like call centers. 99% of remote customer relationship centers do a clean job in accordance with the rules of the art and 1% of these companies have resorted to telephone scams such as ping calls, excessive distance selling on specialized catalogs, attacks IPRN, IRSF fraud etc.
Just because 1% of companies in a sector behave like thugs does not mean that the entire sector should be penalized.
What is needed is to educate people and inform them. Many go into MLM or other businesses with the idea of making money without doing anything, except that you don't get rich just with an idea, you get rich by working to become it. it is marketing or not. We must educate consumers on scams related to MLM to teach people what marketing is and how it works (and therefore by extension also teach MLM and its good and bad practices since it is is one marketing technique among others).
Penalizing 100% of companies in a sector to protect 5% of consumers in the same sector who are actually people attracted by ease, greed and greed is not and never will be the solution .
It takes everything to make a world, it takes good companies, crooks, savvy customers and customers who are easy to fool. Moreover, without this type of client, a small business like BlogPasCher would not work, because the majority of people using the services of this type of business are ex-con and small entrepreneurs who cannot find their place. path because certainly not made for entrepreneurship.
One more thing: In my opinion the scams related to financial independence, easy money and entrepreneurship for all will always work, simply because there will always be people to dream of easy money and because, unlike what some tell you, entrepreneurship is absolutely not for everyone.
Hello Charles,
Thank you for this very informative comment. I greatly appreciate your point of view which is both impartial and fair. This is the purpose of this article, to help people understand.
I tested several MLM companies, I was asked to pay an autoship of 100 euros per month, I earned 2 euros monthly, I was told at least you earn money lol, put 100 euros each month to earn 2 it does not interest me. Every time it's the same music, the product is perfect, it's the best on the market etc, I turned the page of MLM, a pit for crooks in my opinion
I testify the MLM is based on many lies
Hello Hicham,
Thank you for your comment…
Hello Thierry:
Thanks for your article. I totally agree with some points. I think we should tell the truth to prospects when presenting our business. But I remain convinced that Network Marketing is a real business that leaders just need to change their strategy by devoting more time to their dowlines.
I agree with Guillaume also
Again thank you for your article which allowed me to see clearly in the MLM.
Hello Cécile,
Thank you also for your comment. Glad to have enlightened you 🙂
Hello Thierry,
Thank you for your article. I respect this article and I agree with certain points in this article,
However, I would raise another point than the system, the product, the company or the up-line… and that point is us, the person himself.
At the start, we are driven by enthusiasm, we know our first successes via our contact list then come the first failures and it is here in my opinion that the work begins.
Whatever the methods of recruitment, of sales (which are important even essential, I do not say the opposite), the key point of the business is us and our personal development:
- overcome failure
- keep the vision of its objectives
- training to acquire skills
- do whatever you ask your partners
- accompany its partners regularly
All these points depend on us. When we take the responsibility of creating a network, we especially take the responsibility of being the example for our network and that is for me the big problem.
When I started, I was not always an example for my network and I still make mistakes and that does not lead to good results. When we recruit partners, it's up to us to take charge and they will certainly become in our image. If we are not leaders (at heart), if we are not practicing on the ground, then how can we claim to train them.
If each sponsor were examples in terms of action, training for themselves, then most of the points that you expose in your article would not be a problem,
For my part, it's all about examples (and I haven't always been one lol). By giving the example, I noticed that the results were of better quality. Leading by example can be accompanying his partner during his first sales, steps or other, reassuring, increasing his credibility and leadership,
Another point where I agree with you. To quickly become leaders in his MLM, 2 to 3h a day seem to me ric rac apart unless a good marketing system is set up,
Finally, I wouldn't say that MLM is “m… e” but you have to have a realistic vision of what MLM is. It's a real business where you have to devote time to action, your personal training and the training of your partners. For my part, I see it as a real business,
@ soon
Guillaume Régnier
Hello William,
Your comment is simply PERFECT! It complements my article quite well. You are right to see network marketing as a real business. And like any business, it needs the minimum required to grow and generate income.
Let's just hope some distributors see it that way… 🙂
Hello Thierry,
This is certainly a nice article. A good network marketer is necessarily a man without faith or law. While well established businesses pay for a human resource service that will recruit good salespeople, Network Marketing chooses not to pay anything at all. They make an army of desperate people pay by giving them big commissions on what they will never be able to sell. But in the meantime we will have pocketed their money for registration and other pseudo-training.
What shows the bad faith or sometimes the fearful unconsciousness of these people is the following fact: we meet an introverted man looking for a job (and who does not even know how to sell the real skills he possesses) who obviously does not have the slightest sales talent and is told that we have a job for him. All he has to do is place products with his friends and family. There are quite a few awake people who don't immediately understand what this is about. The result is that they sign up, participate in testimony sessions where we see extras recounting how their life has become a long Sunday thanks to company. Obviously this makes our man dream, who returns home promising himself to become the best salesman of all time. But he is what he is, an introvert who knows nothing about sales techniques. Time passes, he did not sell anything and therefore did not receive anything from the company. But he must live! He then realizes for himself that network marketing is not for him and actively resumes looking for a job. Why was he wasting his money and his time when it was obvious that our man was not a salesman?
I really believe that your book should be popularized to warn the greatest number in order to avoid them wasting time and money.
cordially
Mesmin
Hello Mesmin,
First of all, I want to thank you for your comment. You are right to make the connection with skills in the field of sales because it is simply impossible to be successful in a network marketing business until you know how to sell or promote a product ... internet or off.
Again, it is possible to make money with network marketing, but how in all niches it takes skill to be successful.
Your comment is very relevant. Thanks again.
Sincerely,
Thierry
Hello Thierry
You say that you don't want to crucify Network Marketing, yet that's exactly what you did, and I understand Merry's comment who, reading your article, deduces that MLM is, I quotes: "of the m ... e".
You do not suggest any positive, in any case, if it is the case, I did not notice it.
However, I agree with a number of your words and like you, I disapprove of lies and other promises of quick gains, among others.
Sylvie
Hello Sylvia,
Yes you are right to point out that after reading this article you would think my intention is to crucify network marketing. No as I said, this is an excerpt from an ebook that I wrote in order to highlight certain myths in connection with this activity. By downloading the book, we better understand the meaning of this article.
Download the book and you will better understand the meaning of the article.
Otherwise, I am very happy to read you again on this blog.
Sincerely,
Thierry
I just read your article and it is very interesting. An acquaintance has integrated an mlm (Ps2 travel). Their offer is very attractive (income, satisfactory working conditions in terms of time, etc.). By integrating this kind of structure, we integrate a large family (some publish and others adhere to it and vice versa). The godchildren are constantly rewarded. But while browsing the social network facebook a little, what bothers me is that this concept is akin to a sect. The word is a little strong perhaps… It is pure marketing. Not having at all the skills and not sharing the desire to win at all costs "on the back" of my contacts, this concept makes me uncomfortable. It only engages me of course. Thank you for your article.
Good evening Sam,
Thank you also for your comment.
Thanks for the article but ...
I am completely lost.
What is the difference between network marketing, mlm, email marketing, affiliate marketing?
A small definition in 1 line each will be welcome.
Hello Sebastien,
In a nutshell, network marketing or multi-level marketing is different from email marketing but is not very far from affiliate marketing. It is another form of affiliation with a few differences ...
Who else has something to add before I give a final definition? 🙂
Hello Thierry
In short, MLM is m… e ???
However, some people manage to make a living from it ...
Conclusion ???
Have a good day
Hello Merry,
No ! Network marketing is not bullshit. It is a lucrative business for anyone who knows how to exploit it. I know people who make a living from it. This article is an excerpt from my ebook "MLM: the hidden face of the iceberg". It sets out some popular myths that ruin hundreds of thousands of internet users every year.
Through this article, I mainly wanted to talk about the hidden side of mlm, what sponsors and companies do not always tell their distributors. This is just a warning to the attention of distributors who also have their responsibilities.
Once again, mlm is a real opportunity for anyone who knows how to exploit it.
Good day for you too.
In Thierry Bertrand's article, words keep coming back: VERITE-LENS, FACTS-ILLUSIONS.
The Network Marketing Distributor candidate should, in my opinion, require that the Company
Sells him or offers him a smartphone app, thanks to which he could
make realistic projections of activity. In a few clicks, a choice of scenarios will appear
Of the network, according to the quantified objectives. And therefore the corresponding remuneration.
It would be simple, objective and would pull the rug out from under the hucksters. I suspect that no Company practicing Network Marketing will spontaneously play the game of transparency. It's up to us to force it. How? 'Or' What? Thanks to a European law on the matter.
Long and hard fight in perspective!… But up to the stakes.
Gabriel Lefizelier
Hello Anonymous,
Thanks for the advice, I just hope it brings real solutions to people. For me, prevention will always be better ...
I confirm, we make a lot of money in network marketing. It depends on the company where you are. To really make money with this kind of system. You have to be patient and courageous. Many give up because of poor management of their emotions. They hear 5 "no" if they give up! Yet you have to be persistent. When you succeed in this environment. You are no longer afraid of anything, you are really capable of doing incredible things.
For those who hesitate, run! Point! Even if you fail, it will serve as a lesson!
Personally, I'm still in it. And, I learned to sell in the real world, if you don't know how to sell you're dead in the movie.
If you have any questions,
See you soon !
Hello
Yes, some people manage to live and even live well.
The big problem is that you have to BOSS !!! and sometimes much more than in a normal job so this is unfortunately only done for certain people and above all, above all, not for everyone.
How many auto entrepreneurs drop out after a few months? how many new boxes survive after 1, 2, 3 years? it's the same you have to BOSS and sometimes not have a result! In short, it is a marketing system that comes from liberal countries and not from countries with state assistance. This is where there is a wall to go through.
Ah 77% of auto entrepreneurs give up before 5 years:
https://lentreprise.lexpress.fr/creation-entreprise/auto-entrepreneur/77-des-auto-entrepreneurs-periclitent-avant-cinq-ans_1944901.html
cordially
Thank you Thierry! Very good article to give an idea about the reality of MLM
Hello Llyes,
Thank you for your comment.
Thank you for enlightening me a little more on the marketing environment because I was in full reflection on the fact of joining a marketing company called "Elixor Network" I do not know if you know.
Thank you